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Post by jonmichael on Jan 15, 2015 22:09:20 GMT -6
I, actually, wouldn't mind if they started putting out entirely new figures for the exclusives. I'm used to it from most other lines, already. I can understand how it could upset some people, though. But, at the same time, it would allow them to put out one extra all new figure a year. That would be kinda nice.
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Post by prodigy1367 on Jan 15, 2015 22:52:24 GMT -6
I honestly wouldn't mind either. Yeah, we have to pay a bit of a premium to get the exclusive but as long as you don't wait too long to get it, it's not THAT much more expensive than a regular release. There's only so many repaints they can do before they have to start dishing out completely new sculpts as exclusives
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Post by roshisurprise on Jan 16, 2015 13:19:29 GMT -6
All due respect guys but I don't think that's a good idea for many reasons:
1) there is no sense in tamashii investing so much in designing a character, making a mold and going through an entire production process only to have a very narrow release that won't bring them a good return for their investment. That's why their SDCC releases are mere repaints that cost much less.
2) imagine the amount of hate tamashii would get from all their customers that don't reside in North America (maybe even all their American customers that don't live in San diego) For having to pay $80+ for a figure that was sold a day earlier for $45. That might cause a lot of their "completionist" fans to quite buying all the releases.
3) If tamashii doesnt mind releasing an extra figure a year, why don't they just release it outside of Sdcc?
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Post by prodigy1367 on Jan 16, 2015 14:15:37 GMT -6
Very valid points, and I understand completely but speaking for myself, I live in New Jersey, so it's impossible financially for me to go all the way to California for SDCC. Even if you do live in San Diego, you still have to pay the cost of the ticket to get in to Comic Con PLUS the cost of the figure. That puts the figure around $100 for the lucky locals. It's actually cheaper for me to buy one off of a scalper and have it shipped directly to me. For international collectors, it's hard enough to get regular releases and no matter which character they release at SDCC, they ALWAYS have to deal with scalpers. There's also the online retailers that get the surplus and Bluefin that sells them directly for a small markup after a short while. These are perfectly good options for the international crowd as well as the American market. When it comes to the new sculpts, they could at the very least re-tool an existing figure slightly to give us a different form of it to meet demand for specific characters. For example, Cell Saga Vegeta (boot tips/black hair/SSJ Hair), Cell Saga Trunks (would only require new heads/boot tips), etc. There's also the collectors that already have Android Saga Vegeta, Trunks, and SSJ3 Goku. A repaint might not even be worth it if they already own the original release Just my 2 cents
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Post by bulma18 on Jan 16, 2015 15:25:47 GMT -6
Very valid points, and I understand completely but speaking for myself, I live in New Jersey, so it's impossible financially for me to go all the way to California for SDCC. Even if you do live in San Diego, you still have to pay the cost of the ticket to get in to Comic Con PLUS the cost of the figure. That puts the figure around $100 for the lucky locals. It's actually cheaper for me to buy one off of a scalper and have it shipped directly to me. For international collectors, it's hard enough to get regular releases and no matter which character they release at SDCC, they ALWAYS have to deal with scalpers. There's also the online retailers that get the surplus and Bluefin that sells them directly for a small markup after a short while. These are perfectly good options for the international crowd as well as the American market. When it comes to the new sculpts, they could at the very least re-tool an existing figure slightly to give us a different form of it to meet demand for specific characters. For example, Cell Saga Vegeta (boot tips/black hair/SSJ Hair), Cell Saga Trunks (would only require new heads/boot tips), etc. There's also the collectors that already have Android Saga Vegeta, Trunks, and SSJ3 Goku. A repaint might not even be worth it if they already own the original release Just my 2 cents Where you at in Jersey Prodigy? I'm in Morristown myself
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Post by coot83 on Jan 16, 2015 15:29:25 GMT -6
Roshi your take on it is the same as I would guess as to why they don't release new figs at sdcc...it's too much risk on an exclusive that a certain percentage is almost guaranteed to miss or pay a high price for. Also with as many figs at this point, figuarts might somewhat care about the tradition of their releases with new figs being outside of sdcc so that the customer can have closure that they will have a fair opportunity to get the new figure since it won't be limited to an extent. This also might give some of us hope that other figs could get a slight upgrade in the shading on them. I would buy trunks again just for the fact that he might have more shading on his hair...but that's me.
Coot
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Post by prodigy1367 on Jan 16, 2015 15:36:35 GMT -6
Where you at in Jersey Prodigy? I'm in Morristown myself Mount Olive, only 30 mins away! I know a bunch of people on the forum are from Jersey, I actually know a fellow collector that lives 15 mins from me. We should all gather somewhere and meet up!
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Post by jonmichael on Jan 16, 2015 16:41:04 GMT -6
I know some of the other companies have their convention exclusives at other places, not just SDCC. Matty does that with some of the Euro cons, and I think Hasbro has done it, too. I've seen Wonderfest exclusives that Bandai and other companies have done. If Bandai was really worried about devoting more of a budget to a figure only at SDCC, they could just have it as a traveling convention exclusive. It would, also, give a lot more people the opportunity to get it. I don't think they'd get much more hate than other companies who have that convention exclusive release setup. Besides, they already have enough people angry with their silly self-imposed restrictions on reissues. But, yes I agree that it might not be ideal for everyone. I wouldn't mind, because I'm just so used to it, already. Hasbro has me so used to lurking their toyshop after conventions, hitting refresh, and hoping I don't miss when they put the exclusives up. It's the only way I was able to get X-Force, The Thunderbolts, and other figures they won't release again, lol.
I like the idea of slight retools and not just straight up repaints, though. Maybe they could do like some companies and make the exclusives random background characters, or minor characters. Release the Saiyan Saga Vegeta repainted and with a new head for some Planet Trade goons. That way, it's not anyone who is absolutely essential. I don't know, just tossing out ideas...
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Post by Bardoon on Jan 16, 2015 19:51:27 GMT -6
SDCC Exclusives are less of a pain than they were years ago. But they are still a pain. Their costs boom quick and if it's really unique, it's already quadrupled in price before you know it. That's why I'm not a fan of some of Tamashii's SDCC choices. Not because they're bad decisions, but because they should be more accessible to ALL fans than just SDCC and the scalpers that resell them.
But it gets bad...really bad. LEGO recently entered the SDCC Exclusives field and has become vilified because of it. They're slow, but they're learning. At SDCC 2014, a little girl got knocked over and nearly trampled rushing to the LEGO line. LEGO's exclusives (aside from Minifigs) was the '66 Batmobile, a Guardians of the Galaxy set, and one or two others. They had a total of 1000 and ONLY gave 250 out each of the four days.
The little girl nearly got stepped on as everyone rushed and shoved into the line to try and get one of the 250 Lego tickets being given away. People were nearly shoving a handicap woman out of line. It gets ugly and it's because of this ugliness that a lot of companies have become more generous with SDCC Exclusives (producing more). Thankfully, Lego handled it with class and gave the girl a ticket to get in line and helped the handicap woman get in line.
Hasbro and Mattel started off bad as well, but they learned to make more for the event. Lego is "new" to it so they'll learn soon enough...
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Post by littlegreen on Jan 17, 2015 13:23:56 GMT -6
I live on the east coast as well, so yeah no way I'm going to SDCC now or any time in the future.
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Post by roshisurprise on Jan 19, 2015 1:22:51 GMT -6
I live on the east coast as well, so yeah no way I'm going to SDCC now or any time in the future. if I may ask, why not? I live on the other side of the planet from California but I do plan on attending SDCC sometime within the next three years. I find it weird that people who live in the east coast find it hard to attend.
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Post by gotenks on Jan 19, 2015 2:22:52 GMT -6
Im living on the other side of the planet too, and Im planning to go to the US next summer and go to the SDCC
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Post by jake1718 on Jan 19, 2015 5:36:06 GMT -6
I live on the east coast as well, so yeah no way I'm going to SDCC now or any time in the future. Yeah, i really wanna go but plane tickets are around $300-$400.
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Post by coot83 on Jan 19, 2015 6:22:38 GMT -6
I think the summer of 2016 I am going to try to make it out to SDCC. From what I hear it is too much fun to not atleast experience once. I am in the DC area myself.
Coot
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Post by roshisurprise on Jan 19, 2015 13:02:57 GMT -6
I live on the east coast as well, so yeah no way I'm going to SDCC now or any time in the future. Yeah, i really wanna go but plane tickets are around $300-$400. well, why don't you go on a road trip with your nerdy friends? I know I would've definitely done that if I lived in the US
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