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Post by eddieranger on May 21, 2015 15:59:02 GMT -6
Still can't get over that five months ago I was complaining about Teen Gohan going for $200+ on Ebay, and now I have two of them, which I got for $27 each!
Badly need Future Trunks! That's the one I need to e reissued. If I can't get a SS Vegeta, I'll be able to live with that since I already have Scouter Vegeta. I can't imagine any more Future Trunks releases!
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Post by ssjdude on May 21, 2015 16:34:42 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 16:56:18 GMT -6
You're not talking about facts, you are just spouting your opinion. The fact is that people have heard on multiple occasions from the Bandai US representatives that reissues for figures that are "web exclusives" in Japan are not out of the question in the US. They haven't been decided on yet, but that doesn't mean they will or won't happen. The US market is not necessarily bound by the same rules. And, just because someone will fork out $200-300 to buy a figure, doesn't mean it won't come out again in the future. Secondary market prices shouldn't even be a point, when talking about the topic of reissues. Thank you, jonmichael! I appreciate it. Fukkatsu, I appreciate your opinion on the matter. Other people are allowed to have theirs. Hopefully you can be a little more open next time.
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Post by Fukkatsu no F on May 21, 2015 18:30:55 GMT -6
i dont get why people are thinking bandai and bluefins are on the same line. Bandai is manufacture and bluefin is a mere north american distributor. and web exclusives in japan means limited exclusives here, works the same. And again teen gohan is normal release but price was so high since it was never released previously. Reissues work for gohan sine it was normal release. Well, ive seen so many people overthinking bluefin and doesnt really know how exclusives work. So you guys can think w.e you want. But im just saying that it wont happen, sorry. And aftermarket price is current price, just accept the reality otherwise youll never own this figure unless you get them as gifts from somebody. Ill be open toward topics that dont have definite answer but this topic has only one answer. No reissue for exclusives. Bandai is really strict about this. Im over with this now.
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Post by drowningrabbit on May 21, 2015 19:00:59 GMT -6
i dont get why people are thinking bandai and bluefins are on the same line. Bandai is manufacture and bluefin is a mere north american distributor. and web exclusives in japan means limited exclusives here, works the same. And again teen gohan is normal release but price was so high since it was never released previously. Reissues work for gohan sine it was normal release. Well, ive seen so many people overthinking bluefin and doesnt really know how exclusives work. So you guys can think w.e you want. But im just saying that it wont happen, sorry. And aftermarket price is current price, just accept the reality otherwise youll never own this figure unless you get them as gifts from somebody. Ill be open toward topics that dont have definite answer but this topic has only one answer. No reissue for exclusives. Bandai is really strict about this. Im over with this now. Where does it say that it won't be re-issued then. For the sake of the argument. "Web-Exclusive" is a bit vague and also Japan exclusive. I'm just curious where the other side of the coins "Proof" and "Fact" is.
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Post by jonmichael on May 21, 2015 19:27:48 GMT -6
There is not one simple answer, and I have not seen a single thing that you have posted that is 100% fact and proof of it.
On the other hand, like I said before, we have THEMSELVES saying that reissues of any figure, including "Japan exclusives" "web exclusive" or whatever you want to call them, are not a straight no and are still a possibility in the future.
You are arguing against the company about this, and you will never win that. Lol
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Post by drowningrabbit on May 21, 2015 19:36:10 GMT -6
Just looked up some other threads on the board, and just found out that this "Discussion" is happening in two threads at the same time. As for Re-Issues, I mean, what do they have left besides Frieza/Trunks/Vegeta/SS Vegeta/Cell? 16 is STILL in stock in some places, 17 in some B&N. 18 wasn't released that long ago... Maybe regular Goku? SS Goku was re-issued relatively recently as well.
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Post by Fukkatsu no F on May 21, 2015 19:36:42 GMT -6
Bluefin gets their stock from Bandai. Bluefin does not manufacture, they just import and distribute.
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Post by Fukkatsu no F on May 21, 2015 19:38:57 GMT -6
There are only 3 regular releases elligible for reissue. Manga Gohan Manga Piccolo Manga ss goku. also why do i have to answer like small thing? Just do a little research or watch a youtube video. And you are talking about the ones recently released so some are still in market and 17s price almost got doubled. please research and have some info as a collector people...
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Post by drowningrabbit on May 21, 2015 19:45:21 GMT -6
There are only 3 regular releases elligible for reissue. Manga Gohan Manga Piccolo Manga ss goku. also why do i have to answer like small thing? Just do a little research or watch a youtube video. And you are talking about the ones recently released so some are still in market and 17s price almost got doubled. please research and have some info as a collector people... We should just close the thread, mystery solved. Re-issues for next year are Manga Gohan, Manga Piccolo, and Manga SS Goku. Evidence has been shown in a video from a Bandai rep specifically saying that a reissue of any figure is not off the table. I have yet to see one say that they are... E: What about Krillin! He could be re-issued!
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 21:40:19 GMT -6
jonmichael, I think I would believe the argument of "We'll never reissue web exclusives!" if I saw even a shred of evidence. Everyone that has argued that point hasn't been able to give an article, a video, or anything. drowningrabbit, I guess those will be the only reissues ever. If anyone asks why, we'll just point 'em to this thread. I find it curious how there got to be such a divide between "Never release Web-exclusives!" and "It's plausible, which Bluefin/Bandai agrees with!" I never imagined their could be such a divide for action figures. I guess to bring it back around to the topic, there are very conflicted feelings about the release of Figuarts reissues, ssjdude. ^.^
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Post by rayd on May 21, 2015 22:35:01 GMT -6
The lesson here, and it applies to almost everything in life. Is never say never.
Things can change and there is no way of being 100% certain of what can and can not change in the future. There is absolutely no way you can rule out the possibility that these figures will definitely 100% without a doubt not be re-issued.
Nobody knows what the people in charge are thinking, so nobody can definitively say they wont reissue.
My understanding is that the 'exclusive' system is used when there is a lack of confidence in the line. The fact that this line has already seen a change in terms of the sheer number of releases this year means that as popularity and demand increases the logical step from a business standpoint will be to at some point return to figures that got more limited releases.
Am I saying this will 100% happen next year or even the year after? No. But it would be foolish of me to definitively say they won't.
Policies change all the time, particularly when a business grows.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2015 23:36:30 GMT -6
The lesson here, and it applies to almost everything in life. Is never say never. Things can change and there is no way of being 100% certain of what can and can not change in the future. There is absolutely no way you can rule out the possibility that these figures will definitely 100% without a doubt not be re-issued. Nobody knows what the people in charge are thinking, so nobody can definitively say they wont reissue. My understanding is that the 'exclusive' system is used when there is a lack of confidence in the line. The fact that this line has already seen a change in terms of the sheer number of releases this year means that as popularity and demand increases the logical step from a business standpoint will be to at some point return to figures that got more limited releases. Am I saying this will 100% happen next year or even the year after? No. But it would be foolish of me to definitively say they won't. Policies change all the time, particularly when a business grows. Well put sir!
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Post by legato on May 23, 2015 20:15:20 GMT -6
never said that it will never be re-release. i said there's a slim chance of having SS Vegeta being released again im on the side of having it re-release again for new comers in this line so everyone has a chance of getting their collections complete. but based from my experience in this line, its not healthy to get your hopes up because it will stress you out and have speculations in every move that tamashii/bluefin make. so i think its better not to expect for a rerelease of this "exclusives" and if ever they got re-release then its Christmas! ) here's one speculation i read,forgot where i got it. anyway it states that Tamashii is loving the "web exclusive" tag on their DBZ and will not give it up anytime soon because it ensures them even more sales than ever before than a normal release and keeps the line "hyped up". That's what they want to keep the hype up so that demand can be high. People tend to order at least 2 of each figure and the scalpers even more copies of each because everyone has a mindset that it will get more expensive as time goes by as proven on previous releases. following this trend of sale, one can speculate that the market already have enough copies of each figure for everyone (AT LEAST FOR THE RECENT ONES) and only the hype of them and the feel of being exclusive/limited is driving the prices high.
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Post by Bardoon on Jun 6, 2015 16:44:07 GMT -6
Tamashii's self-imposed "Exclusive" rule is like a person declaring they're vegetarian and declaring that they'll never eat meat again. It's always subject to change. Tamashii just got around themselves with it by announcing the "advanced colors" re-issues with Trunks and Vegeta (as they have with other figures in the past too). That's like a vegetarian declaring that they're now a pescatarian (only will eat fish & other seafood meats).
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