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Post by Bardoon on Mar 5, 2015 17:24:35 GMT -6
..and thats exactly whats happening here. He's purchasing 30 to sell at a profit down the road. When multiple scalpers buy in bulk this way it creates a false shortage of figures, raising the price and making the figure become rare prematurely. Say scalpers didn't buy so many figures, there'd be more to go around and less people would have to buy them at a premium price down the road. Yes, people should pre-order them to ensure they get their product at MSRP. I do this, every single time. However, some people who collect these figures have to budget and thus wait to pre-order or wait to purchase and when a figure sells out prematurely due to scalpers hoarding figures, it puts them in a position to have to pay a premium. I also consider that many of those collecting these figures are adults with money to spend, I get that they can spend their hard earned money on anything they want, but at the same time there's younger kids out there who have a smaller income that they receive less often and thus also feel the back hand of scalping like this. It doesn't seem like a huge issue when one person is doing it, but the bigger picture is that hundreds of people do this and it adds up. It's exactly why diamonds are "rare" and expensive. They're not exactly rare, they're just monopolized by people who are manipulating the market and driving up the price. That's the thing though. It's going to happen anyway. All the scalpers out there aren't going to just suddenly stop. Collecting can be an expensive hobby, so if there's an easy and little/no risk way of making some extra cash to spend on said hobby, then yeah I'm going to do it. And honestly, not to sound like an ass(though I probably do), but someone not being able to purchase a piece of plastic at MSRP is a first world problem, and not one I feel too sorry about. If someone's on a tight budget and can't afford to set aside $30-$50 every few months to pre-order, then they must have more important things to spend their money on than expensive collector's action figures. Keep in mind you have a wide dimension of people here. Some folks like myself, jon, and MajinRob come from more the old school "traditional" toy collecting communities. Jon put it well, if you post about you involvement in scalping/reselling, you're going to be called out and vilified. What discussion we're having here is actually quite tame and mature compared to the reactions you would get on other forums (like Fwoosh, SSF, TNI, etc.). I know the DBZ collecting community hasn't historically tied itself to that mindset, but you're going to see that more since DBZ is having a "resurgence" of popularity in the past couple years thanks to collectibles LIKE the DBZ Figuarts. Bandai/Tamashii Nations as a whole are beginning to attract more attention as well with all the new franchises they've been getting. Just be prepared for polar responses next time you want to brag about your resale stock. Especially if you join another forum and try to do the same thing...
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Post by ToadKart on Mar 5, 2015 17:32:19 GMT -6
That's the thing though. It's going to happen anyway. All the scalpers out there aren't going to just suddenly stop. Collecting can be an expensive hobby, so if there's an easy and little/no risk way of making some extra cash to spend on said hobby, then yeah I'm going to do it. And honestly, not to sound like an ass(though I probably do), but someone not being able to purchase a piece of plastic at MSRP is a first world problem, and not one I feel too sorry about. If someone's on a tight budget and can't afford to set aside $30-$50 every few months to pre-order, then they must have more important things to spend their money on than expensive collector's action figures. Keep in mind you have a wide dimension of people here. Some folks like myself, jon, and MajinRob come from more the old school "traditional" toy collecting communities. Jon put it well, if you post about you involvement in scalping/reselling, you're going to be called out and vilified. What discussion we're having here is actually quite tame and mature compared to the reactions you would get on other forums (like Fwoosh, SSF, TNI, etc.). I know the DBZ collecting community hasn't historically tied itself to that mindset, but you're going to see that more since DBZ is having a "resurgence" of popularity in the past couple years thanks to collectibles LIKE the DBZ Figuarts. Bandai/Tamashii Nations as a whole are beginning to attract more attention as well with all the new franchises they've been getting. Just be prepared for polar responses next time you want to brag about your resale stock. Especially if you join another forum and try to do the same thing... Ah, this is the only toy forum I go to, so I didn't really know it was such a taboo subject to discuss. Next time, I'll just keep how many I buy to myself. I wasn't trying to brag or anything, just thought it was funny since it was a ridiculous amount of Vegetto's, a character I don't even care much for nor plan on keeping one of.
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Post by Bardoon on Mar 5, 2015 17:39:30 GMT -6
Keep in mind you have a wide dimension of people here. Some folks like myself, jon, and MajinRob come from more the old school "traditional" toy collecting communities. Jon put it well, if you post about you involvement in scalping/reselling, you're going to be called out and vilified. What discussion we're having here is actually quite tame and mature compared to the reactions you would get on other forums (like Fwoosh, SSF, TNI, etc.). I know the DBZ collecting community hasn't historically tied itself to that mindset, but you're going to see that more since DBZ is having a "resurgence" of popularity in the past couple years thanks to collectibles LIKE the DBZ Figuarts. Bandai/Tamashii Nations as a whole are beginning to attract more attention as well with all the new franchises they've been getting. Just be prepared for polar responses next time you want to brag about your resale stock. Especially if you join another forum and try to do the same thing... Ah, this is the only toy forum I go to, so I didn't really know it was such a taboo subject to discuss. Next time, I'll just keep how many I buy to myself. I wasn't trying to brag or anything, just thought it was funny since it was a ridiculous amount of Vegetto's, a character I don't even care much for nor plan on keeping one of. You do what you want man, it's a free country. Just trying to help and educate you on some of the collecting culture mindsets you'll see around. Especially in the action figure communities that I've frequented for years.
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Post by Bardoon on Mar 5, 2015 17:40:14 GMT -6
Anyways, back on topic...does anyone know of any major Asian toy festivals coming up where Tamashii might be inclined to show off something new?
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Post by MajinRob on Mar 5, 2015 20:07:10 GMT -6
I don't care what people do, nor am I going to tell people how to spend their money. But, I will say it's kind of in poor taste to be posting so openly about it, a little bit. On most other collector forums I'm on posting about scalping will get you ragged on big time, basically demonize you on the forum, and maybe even get you banned. Someone posted on the Fwoosh about scalping, and everyone pretty much said they hoped he got cancer of the dick... Just get ready for hate when you post about it. I think whats really in poor taste are cancer jokes. I dislike scalping.. but damn..
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Post by MajinRob on Mar 5, 2015 20:13:35 GMT -6
Anyways, back on topic...does anyone know of any major Asian toy festivals coming up where Tamashii might be inclined to show off something new? Not as of yet, but I do know the new Figuarts ZERO Goku Kamehameha was announced.
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Post by jonmichael on Mar 5, 2015 20:23:06 GMT -6
I wasn't making a cancer joke, that was verbatim what some people said. I doubt some of them were joking when they said it, either...people just get that wound up about scalping. I think it's funny that some people take it that far, is all. The laugh was my response to their reaction.
As for toy festivals, I know they just had one but all they really showed off was Sailor Moon. Before they show off any new Dragon Ball stuff they should really tell us where the other stuff is getting slotted into the release schedule. No need to keep on showing stuff that just goes into limbo with the rest.
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Post by prodigy1367 on Mar 5, 2015 20:31:51 GMT -6
It's gonna be a great year for DBZ Figuarts. They've got the prototypes they showed last year, 16 and Vegito, and the Revival of F project they're working on. They're definitely picking up the pace of the releases. Maybe one day soon they'll be releasing a figure every month
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Post by SupremeKai on Mar 5, 2015 20:39:13 GMT -6
Agreed! I too hope all scalpers get cancer of the dick variety. Well put.
Can't wait for meh 16. Any day now...
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Post by MajinRob on Mar 5, 2015 20:41:05 GMT -6
Still waiting on my Android 16 to ship out from BBTS. Excited to see it up close, it's also satisfying to have the three main Androids.
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Post by Tien2415 on Mar 5, 2015 20:42:46 GMT -6
Agreed! I too hope all scalpers get cancer of the dick variety. Well put. Can't wait for meh 16. Any day now... Did you order your 16 from Japan?
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Post by timone317 on Mar 5, 2015 20:49:36 GMT -6
It's gonna be a great year for DBZ Figuarts. They've got the prototypes they showed last year, 16 and Vegito, and the Revival of F project they're working on. They're definitely picking up the pace of the releases. Maybe one day soon they'll be releasing a figure every month I'm beyond excited for SDCC this year, not just for whatever exclusive they have planned but for whatever prototypes they may show off. Previous events suggest I shouldn't expect anything but I have a feeling they have some good things planned for SDCC this year.
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Post by MajinRob on Mar 5, 2015 21:01:35 GMT -6
It's gonna be a great year for DBZ Figuarts. They've got the prototypes they showed last year, 16 and Vegito, and the Revival of F project they're working on. They're definitely picking up the pace of the releases. Maybe one day soon they'll be releasing a figure every month I'm beyond excited for SDCC this year, not just for whatever exclusive they have planned but for whatever prototypes they may show off. Previous events suggest I shouldn't expect anything but I have a feeling they have some good things planned for SDCC this year. I'm pretty excited for whatever the exclusive ends up being. Just worried about what I'll end up having to pay for the figure.
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Post by jonmichael on Mar 5, 2015 21:20:00 GMT -6
Does Bandai/Tamashii/Bluefin not make their exclusives available online the week after SDCC, like most other toy companies?
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Post by Bardoon on Mar 5, 2015 21:40:01 GMT -6
I think it was about a month after SDCC that Bluefin posted Vegeta on their site and he sold out QUICK.
I'd prefer if they just sold their exclusives online only like Sideshow. Less of a headache for all of fans, less of a headache for the sales people at SDCC, and they can offer more stock and product because they'll be reaching a larger audience.
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