SupremeKai
Rank: Cooler's Squadron
Watching you poop!
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 17, 2014 22:22:15 GMT -6
^ See this type of crap right here is why you find yourself getting bagged out so much. Your complete unwillingness to accept advice and recognize genuine criticisms on their merit, instead choosing to be a indifferent imbecile. We both know that wasn't the point I was making at all. I was merely offering you good sound advice, based upon what I identified was clearly lacking in your current work - and you took it way too personally.
I really am going to have to agree with you there, you really are "no good at all". You know what!? I don't forgive you for "being so bad" and "lazy" - because you have the ability to be so much better, but sadly you choose to be mediocre instead.
So, to you now I must ask this question; what is the point of this thread if you are clearly not willing to hear our opinions - did you not just ask us for your advice? You can't seriously expect to grow from it all if you keep excluding all advice you deem negative.
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SupremeKai
Rank: Cooler's Squadron
Watching you poop!
Posts: 1,091
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 17, 2014 22:39:27 GMT -6
^ and that kind of post is exactly what instigates such hostilities. So thanks again for that entirely meaningless contribution Sexy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 22:39:48 GMT -6
Huh I so take people's advice. I ask for it above. I also thank people for the help. Really let me ask you this. What do you know about my work or what I do. Do you make customs? I find everything you say not to be advice. Your just truly a insulting person. You do nothing but insult me . You try to cover it up but you do. Really I do far more then you think I do. You have no right to put down my work or me. I'm happy to take advice. But I don't insult you . I don't see what your big problem is. You have not took the time to read anything on the or my last thread. I'm happy to get help. But not from someone who puts down others just to make there self feel good. You have such a problem with my work. Why don't you stop looking at it, I don't ask you to buy my work. I'm getting better just not all in a rush. I really don't like drama. I don't see why you keep trying to start stuff. I have done nothing to you. I'm living my life and doing what I love. I have had it with people like you so please go ahead with your friends and talk about someone behind there back that hasn't done a thing to you.
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Post by ◄VR► on Oct 17, 2014 23:01:28 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 23:09:53 GMT -6
Really I been taking advice.i never claim to be good. I think I'm very humble. But this dosnt seem to be good enough for people on this site. I seen all the bad stuff about me. Really I'm not a rude guy. I do my work because I love it. I don't bother anyone. Really would everyone prefer me just to go? I really have no problem with it. I can see if I was mean but I'm not. I never even ask anyone to buy my work. So would everyone prefer I leave? If I do will you guys stop watching my ebay and being angry at what my stuff sales for? Will I be left a lot. Because why am I so hated? Really what have I done to you? Or anyone.this is getting really annoying. I don't talk down to people. So why is it everyone has a problem with me. I do tones of customs. I may use a few but people use a few of mine. Do I ever say I. Better then anyone else?
oh and this includes Mods. I know you guys have really big hate for me. So let me know if you want me gone. I won't dislike anyone. Just let me know
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SupremeKai
Rank: Cooler's Squadron
Watching you poop!
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 17, 2014 23:16:05 GMT -6
I fear you are unknowingly paralleling my advice/intentions with your own insecurities, possibly derived from previous negative interactions or unresolved issues. Any you would be mistaken in doing so. To my knowledge no-one here has ever about you behind your back. I believe you have somehow convoluted yourself into perceiving my critics as being personal attacks on your character or abilities. That is not my intention. True, I am not one to shower you, or anyone for that matter, in praises. That's not who I am. So don't expect a big pat on the back from me any time soon. Everyone else might be happy to revel in mediocrity, but not me. I see great potential in your work/abilities, which is why I'm giving you the straight dope.
I have been witness to some pretty terrible customs in my time. A lot of which looked like complete garbage. In such a case, I choose to do exactly what you suggested, skirt around them quietly - whilst choking on my own vomit. FYI These aren't any such customs. So quit being such a melodramatic, temperamental child.
I am an adult. So I expect everyone else to behave like adults. Alas, this is not always the case.
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Post by timone317 on Oct 17, 2014 23:16:59 GMT -6
no hate. disappointment maybe, but no hate. you have to understand, a few of us here are perfectionists and we can't easily ignore minor flaws. granted you are subject to more negatively laced remarks than most and as someone who has said a few negative things I'd like to apologize...BUT it should be perfectly clear people want to see your work improve and this goes for SupremeKai as well. stay as long as you want and keep posting. you aren't inspiring anything close to hatred, I think I can safely speak for everyone when I say we all want to see you get better and keep posting here.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 23:22:04 GMT -6
Ok well SupremeKai and timone317. I have to say thank you. timone317 I really want to thank you. That's what I have seen and I'm glad your able to see and say it I will show you the differents in my work from about a year ago till now
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 23:26:52 GMT -6
About a year ago Now
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Post by ◄VR► on Oct 18, 2014 0:07:36 GMT -6
I usually stay out of these discussions, but I guess I'll go ahead and say something.
You're suffering from a common issue that creators face, you focus on negativity. If you go back through all of your feedback, the majority of it is praise or well mannered criticism. That's what you should focus on, the majority. Most of the people on here, do not hate you. They enjoy seeing your work and they want to see you improve. However, occasionally someone will post mildly aggressive criticism, and then your thread turns into unnecessary drama for a few pages. Just enjoy the praise, listen to the advice, and avoid conflict, and everything will be super-special-awesome. Alright? Alright.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2014 0:15:44 GMT -6
Ok ill agree to that. I do get defensive. I thought I had good reasons for it. I just never see words like that one anyone elses page. So I thought it was a bit unfair.
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Post by Adz on Oct 18, 2014 3:47:01 GMT -6
I feel I shouldnt say anything BUT I think a lot of people would act defensively if they were called amongst other things an ' imbecile' ...as lets face it, it is disrespectful, and no matter the intention of any criticism if it isn't responded to how you would deem fit, then... ? anyway all of this is old now , in future 1andonly5711 just keep the advice of ◄VR► in mind... i'd even go so far as to print out his last sentence and stick it on your wall as a reminder!! Just enjoy the praise, listen to the advice, and avoid conflict, and everything will be super-special-awesome.
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Post by Branjita on Oct 18, 2014 7:54:50 GMT -6
Nobody hates you here 1andonly, in fact I would say everybody here likes you. As an artist you have to learn to take criticism from others, because most of the time they are just trying to help you grow better and better. That's what every single criticism Adrenaline and I post, because we're pointing out some weaknesses, so you can learn from them, and the best thing to do is try to improve where you are weak. While SupremeKai is gruff and offensive in the way he states his opinion, his basic message is that you have talent, but you should try to learn about anatomy, because the muscles you sculpt and the proportions of things would improve if you developed an eye for seeing anatomy better. Sometimes I get frustrated commenting the same thing over and over, but that's because my eyes and brain just detect proportions so much. Being able to see when something isn't long enough is a skill you need to develop (and Tamashii for that matter... I'm not sure why their Android 18 has such short arms!). What I would suggest is get a book from the library about either drawing humans or about anatomy and take a look at it and figure some things out. Heck, look at a Victoria's Secret catalog and you'll figure out what could be considered ideal proportions regarding arm and leg length. Pay attention to where elbows typically hit the body, where hands come down to. DBZ proportions are typically different from real life, with Goku and others having slightly shorter arms than real life people. Perfect Cell's manga and anime design has longer shins than thighs, which is unnatural for humans, and really important to his design. You could just Google and try to find something as well if you wanted, looking at full body pics of the character while engineering the proportions to be the right lengths helps enough, but sculpting muscles from flat drawings from the anime is pretty difficult. If you have figures with a lot of muscles that look natural, have that figure on your desk while you sculpt and reference it. That's what I do. I put something on my desk and try to copy it.
My weakness is sculpting clothes and I rarely have to sculpt muscles though. I still struggle with sculpting clothes. I struggle a lot. Armor is no big deal, but when it comes to sculpting wrinkled DBZ shirts and pants, I have a really hard time. I realize this weakness, and I try to improve on it. I can sculpt a character's head really quite quickly and easily, but I have to spend more time doing clothes because I want to improve and do a good job.
So anyway, I don't think you're taking people's comments the right way. We aren't here to bully you or insult you. I would suspend or ban people for that. We're here to enjoy your work and try to help you improve. You're just taking the comments wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 21:28:25 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2014 21:36:38 GMT -6
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