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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 7:17:19 GMT -6
Thanks branjita. I'm about to post some WIPs. Could use so advice
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 7:36:49 GMT -6
Raditz . Idk what's missing on him so ant advice is welcome. Btw he's wider then piccolo . Armor is completely sculpted
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 7:38:52 GMT -6
Working on the team. But wanted to get the hardest one out if the way, I know it needs a lot of work.. But I'm only asking about height , length and face sculpt, the rest I'm aware of
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 7:40:15 GMT -6
Gotta do the neck tail and crouch . OH and mouth. And more let me know
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Post by Branjita on Oct 17, 2014 7:57:59 GMT -6
Looks like Raditz needs longer shins and forearms, the face looks too young.
Neiz is a really large character, one of the largest. For reference, Salza is a little taller than Goku, so by knowing that, you should be able to see how large Neiz is next to Salza in pics.
Cell I'm not sure what to say, it's good so far.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 8:02:35 GMT -6
I get Raditz shins but arm look about right to me. Can you give a little more detail.
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Post by Adrenaline on Oct 17, 2014 8:05:51 GMT -6
For Gohan, I agree with Bran. And maybe less shading on the neck wrap. Also, I believe his pants taper like Piccolo's and then show a thin line of ankle, not socks. Everything else is good though.
Raditz, definitely thin the eyes and make him look older and more evil. I will always hate those shoulder flaps that Bandai made, but whatever. You made his armor look much better than your USSTrunks, so that's good.
Naiz, I suppose his height is okay, but comparing him to Vegeta isn't a good example because they made Vegeta too tall. However, his long thighs make his lower legs way too short. I recommend you add some length to his lower legs, even if it makes him taller. Probably needs at least 1/2-3/4 of an inch. Face looks fine, but I recommend a more angry face than a happy face. Looks like he just got a new toy or something lol
Cell 2nd Form, looks pretty good. The big eyes Bandai gave him will work better for his 2nd Form. All I recommend on him is definitely make his forearms thicker and fists bigger.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 8:26:02 GMT -6
I was trying to use these photos as references
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Post by Adrenaline on Oct 17, 2014 8:46:48 GMT -6
Those are fine, but if you look at Naiz's smile, it flattens and barely bends upward toward the middle of his lips, then back down. It's a very gradual and small difference, but really brings out his look. Look at Branjita's Burter to see what I mean, since Burter and Naiz have similar faces. His smile flattens out and doesn't curve the whole way, until it reaches his cheeks. Also, Raditz can just benefit from thinner eyes, from top to bottom.
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Post by Branjita on Oct 17, 2014 12:22:46 GMT -6
I get Raditz shins but arm look about right to me. Can you give a little more detail. Well, when I bend my elbow all the way, I can easily reach the top of my shoulder with my fingers. Your Raditz can't even touch the top of his bicep if he were to articulated enough to do that, so that's why it looks too short to me. For legs, I figure if I can kick my own butt with my heels in real life, then that's how legs should be proportioned too, so the shins appear too short. I'm not sure what you used, but given the strange proportions of how those arms are looking, I'm guessing Goku upper arms and Krillin forearms? If those are just Goku arms, I've never noticed how short his forearms are, but it's really noticeable because of the forearm armor being so short and stocky. As far as Raditz's height is concerned, in the anime he is approximately Piccolo's height, which during that saga, would mean he is about Tien's height more or less. I don't know how you have him sized right now, but he should be taller than Figuarts Goku to be a good representation of Raditz.
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Post by vedreta on Oct 17, 2014 17:08:29 GMT -6
I really like that Gohan! And good work on the progress ones so far. Looking forward to seeing what the Cell will look like. Don't really know neiz, but I'd like to see the end result aswell!
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 17, 2014 17:35:38 GMT -6
Raditz . Idk what's missing on him so ant advice is welcome. Btw he's wider then piccolo . Armor is completely sculpted Looking good, so far. Though, you've forgotten to add his bands, to the left thigh and bicep. His hairline could be made lower. As of now he has a billboard for a forehead. You could also repositioned his head, as it is seated a little bit too high on the neck. Maybe try and drop it down ever so slightly, as he currently looks like a Ninja Turtle - in a bad way. Also, the boots and gloves are missing the ridge that runs vertically through the centre. Fix those things and he should be good. Also, I've been meaning to mention to you; that you should look into becoming more intimate with the human body, in particular its musculature. Currently your muscles are looking like bloated cookie dough and lack proper form and definition. You have the technical ability down pat, but your overall lack of anatomy is holding you back from achieving the results you are truly capable of. Food for thought.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 18:59:37 GMT -6
Branjita I see. But no it's goku. But it dose look short for some reason . Thanks for the help. Also Adrenalinevedreta thanks man. I'm liking cell so far. He was difficult poposbrother took gotcha @supremekai dbz has strang parts like legs . But thanks will be sure to do. So they do not look like that. The ridges are there. There on the sides. As for the head. I didn't have it all the way on. Yep supremkai I'm just bad at everything. Thanks for the advice
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Post by SupremeKai on Oct 17, 2014 20:55:46 GMT -6
Actually, for the most part, DBZ's musculature and overall anatomy is surprisingly accurate. Grossly sensationalised, yes. But there is still an element that is remarkably grounded in reality. It is clearly apparent, Toriyama, at the very least has a working understanding of the human anatomy. Obviously, being an animation the muscles are often only defined by bold black lines - but that doesn't mean they don't have contour and lack proper form. Just look at SHF Broly's musculature, for instance: www.madinjapan.fr/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/i/figurine-dbz-bandai-s-h-figuarts-broly-super-saiyan-dragon-ball-z.png[/img]You can clearly recognise and identify the specific muscle groups, just by the shape and contour of each segment. Notice how the abdominals aren't simple smooth kidney bean-shaped lumps protruding from his abdomen. To say that DBZ lacks proper anatomy just sounds like a convenient and lazy excuse. Be better than pressing a line into a wad of clay and calling it a quadricep. Brushing off my advice only serves to stunt your own personal development. So, take it or leave it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2014 21:50:50 GMT -6
Yep @supremekai I'm no good at all. All I do is press lines in clay and paint. Sorry that my work is so bad. Please forgive me for being so bad. I am lazy. I don't do much at all.
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