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Post by thesupernamekian on Oct 14, 2017 13:04:34 GMT -6
"Because it's from IF Labs... where figures come to life." We all know the Dragon Ball figures from the 2000's often referred to as the " Movie Collection", but does anyone actually know anything about IF Labs? I've checked online before, but I've only been able to find the slightest evidence that IF Labs even existed. Their figures were some of the most gorgeous Dragon Ball figures ever, so why aren't they still around? I'm confused... Attachment Deleted
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Post by Gonstead on Oct 14, 2017 23:26:22 GMT -6
As far as I understand, they were merely a branch of Irwin in collaboration with Funimation that focused more on producing figures for collectors. 
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Post by poposbrother on Oct 15, 2017 13:31:11 GMT -6
Yeah they were just an Irwin subline that made the movie, bigger dragon ball, and yu yu hakusho figures. Not sure when they started calling it movie collection but probably when jakks took over.
I still remember the commercial for if labs that played before coolers revenge on the vhs tape. Man I'm getting old.
Another cool thing about if labs is they originally were all hand painted but I have no clue if this carried over to the movie collection or not.
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Post by titfos on Sept 4, 2020 11:55:12 GMT -6
I started IF Labs for Funimation with Gen Fukunaga. It was an internal project initially based on the fact that Irwin did not want to product a more "McFarlane" like line of toys. At FUNimation we had already licensed the TV series figures to Irwin, but we had in our back pocket a separate license for the Movies. The idea was that we would produce a more upscale line ourselves and use that to spur Irwin to produce a higher quality figures and not rely so much on the old Bandai figure molds. The upside is that it worked. I hired Igor Fernandez from Infinite Mindz and Toxic Mom to produce the original sculpts. We used our great close relationships with Toei to get the designs approved included human like muscles and damage. This was controversial at the time. When we presented the line to Irwin and the early feedback we were getting from Toy Collectors, they came on board with the project. The first idea was the DBZ movie collection, but internally we moved fast and started the Yu Yu Hakusho and Dragon Ball lines as well. I often had to play bad cop in the Irwin relationship and push for fan centric issues, which Gen would then smooth over if I went too far. It was a great relationship with all of the Irwin brothers. We really loved those guys. They helped tremendously with package physical design, while we produced all the art in-house at Funimation. After the second round of figures, the IF Labs project was handed off to our inside licensing team, which was run by Bob Brennan and my wife Laura as well as a few others. Many don't know this, but Bob was the one that got Z on Cartoon Network. Those early few years, much of the licensing relationship with Toei and Shūeisha was run out of the Brennan families "Rock and Roll Country Club", Frank Lloyd Wright inspired old radio station studio and offices in Montgomery Al. The legendary station was WBAM, and is a whole fun story of itself. Gen's wife Cindy was Bob's brother. Back in '97ish occasionally some early fan would see all of the Dragon Ball merchandise laying around the station and leave in disbelief that this was happening there.  It was an amazing ride, I stayed with the company until 2007 and my wife retired in 2020.
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Post by Gonstead on Sept 4, 2020 13:02:50 GMT -6
I started IF Labs for Funimation with Gen Fukunaga. It was an internal project initially based on the fact that Irwin did not want to product a more "McFarlane" like line of toys. At FUNimation we had already licensed the TV series figures to Irwin, but we had in our back pocket a separate license for the Movies. The idea was that we would produce a more upscale line ourselves and use that to spur Irwin to produce a higher quality figures and not rely so much on the old Bandai figure molds. The upside is that it worked. I hired Igor Fernandez from Infinite Mindz and Toxic Mom to produce the original sculpts. We used our great close relationships with Toei to get the designs approved included human like muscles and damage. This was controversial at the time. When we presented the line to Irwin and the early feedback we were getting from Toy Collectors, they came on board with the project. The first idea was the DBZ movie collection, but internally we moved fast and started the Yu Yu Hakusho and Dragon Ball lines as well. I often had to play bad cop in the Irwin relationship and push for fan centric issues, which Gen would then smooth over if I went too far. It was a great relationship with all of the Irwin brothers. We really loved those guys. They helped tremendously with package physical design, while we produced all the art in-house at Funimation. After the second round of figures, the IF Labs project was handed off to our inside licensing team, which was run by Bob Brennan and my wife Laura as well as a few others. Many don't know this, but Bob was the one that got Z on Cartoon Network. Those early few years, much of the licensing relationship with Toei and Shūeisha was run out of the Brennan families "Rock and Roll Country Club", Frank Lloyd Wright inspired old radio station studio and offices in Montgomery Al. The legendary station was WBAM, and is a whole fun story of itself. Gen's wife Cindy was Bob's brother. Back in '97ish occasionally some early fan would see all of the Dragon Ball merchandise laying around the station and leave in disbelief that this was happening there.  It was an amazing ride, I stayed with the company until 2007 and my wife retired in 2020. Oh wow, now *this* is some info worthy for the wiki! You wouldn't happen to be able to answer some further questions, would you? For example a while back we had a collector bring up some old IF Labs prototypes of figures that never got released show off in here. I'm guessing these mainly didn't get made due to Irwin losing the license but I'm also curious to what extent Jakks Pacific had on those big figures? How many of those were "If Labs sculpts" vs Jakks creating their own? Branjita You'll wanna check this out.
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Post by poposbrother on Sept 4, 2020 15:04:26 GMT -6
Well that was unexpected and amazing
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Post by Branjita on Sept 4, 2020 17:30:41 GMT -6
titfos Incredible! And what is your name??
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Post by titfos on Sept 5, 2020 17:43:07 GMT -6
Gonstead,
I'd be happy to get in touch. I'm traveling all of next week, but will be available by text. Tamara Stephens in FUNimation licensing took over the IF Labs line perhaps before or just after Series 2 was at retail. I had some crazy heart issues and when I came back, I switched to a different role entirely. I still love to look at all of original IF Labs figures. It was a dream come true.
You can write me at chad.bowers(gmail.com
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