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Post by Majin Tomato on Dec 19, 2017 8:31:15 GMT -6
As someone who prefers end of DB Goku... yeah, no. Not only are there decently articulated Kid Goku figures out there already in smaller scale than figuarts, but Figuarts is also putting out an articulated Donald Duck in a reasonable scale to 5-6" Sora. You cannot tell me Kid Goku would be harder to figure out.
The real reason they wanted to make him that big is to share as much as possible with other figures that might be coming down the pipeline. I was ok with that because I foolishly thought it'd be other reasonably small characters like Trunks, Goten, and Kid Buu, but the scale on this Goku makes it seem more like we're in for a new Krillin. It's just... eh. It might be a pass for me, which is a shame because I was all for it when the initial previews came out.
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Post by Adrenaline on Dec 19, 2017 11:20:59 GMT -6
Also, if they make a King Piccolo down the line, he is going to need to be massive, and I mean MASSIVE, to accurately accommodate the size of this kid Goku, especially when creating this scene.  EDIT: If they give Piccolo a swiss-cheese torso. |
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Post by gokubr on Dec 19, 2017 13:00:52 GMT -6
Also, if they make a King Piccolo down the line, he is going to need to be massive, and I mean MASSIVE, to accurately accommodate the size of this kid Goku, especially when creating this scene. EDIT: If they give Piccolo a swiss-cheese torso. Knowing Tamashii they'll just give us a big Goku and a little King Piccolo. They just don't care about scale and color consistency in this line... |
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Post by ollymovics on Dec 20, 2017 5:25:57 GMT -6
Majin Vegeta is now for sale; great?
Yes, but not that much to me.
I don't mean i don't like that figure, now, it's looking really good.
But what i mean is that they should consider to fit figures in pairs.
Majin Vegeta needs either Big Boo or Goku SSJ2 to exist!
OK, big boo as been seen, but it doesn't mean for sure he will be released.
thereby, i prefer to wait before buying MV, wich i would definitely prefer to fit with Goku SSJ2 than big boo.
We have adult Gohan, but still waiting for super boo or buutenks to fit with!!
We don't have any figure at the moment to display our adult gohan in action!
Another statement i would like to make is that they should finish sagas before starting others.
They've released lately some nice figures from the saiyan saga: Yamcha, Ten shin han,Scouter Vegeta and Nappa.
But what about Kid Gohan?
Same thing about DBS, we now have Resurection Frieza, but nothing about Jiren, Kefla or Migate no Gokui Goku from the tournament.
I have to admit that at this point, i really don't care about DB figures, cause they still have many figures to realease before.
I'm really wondering what's their logic in all that.
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Post by fignuts on Dec 20, 2017 6:06:46 GMT -6
Would be nice if they released a SSJ Goku 2.0 with alternate SSJ2 head. I'd rather not buy them seperatley just for the minor change to the hair.
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Post by kanji on Dec 20, 2017 7:16:53 GMT -6
The logic my friend, as is the case with most things, is $$$$. As with most figure makers, for the most part they cater for what is popular. I said it before, but SH Figuarts was born with the advent of Kai and predominantly aimed at the domestic market. The thing that stands Tamashii apart from other manufacturers however, is that now, 10 years on, they are marketing towards a global fanbase, and not just Japan. You still find that figures that will sell well in Japan will be regular release, whilst those that perform better internationally will be webshop exclusives, but at least they make them. They then alternate which products they bring to market accordingly. To your point, in the simplest terms, figures need to sell a certain quantity to make profit. Whatever market research they've gathered, obviously indicates that making saiyan saga Gohan will not make them as much money as a Yamcha, Tien or even Majin Vegeta. Majin Vegeta is also a perfect example of a character who is more popular in the west than the east. Guaranteed he will sell more units internationally. The new goku on the other hand will likely do very well in Japan alone! |
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Post by ollymovics on Dec 20, 2017 7:29:11 GMT -6
The logic my friend, as is the case with most things, is $$$$. As with most figure makers, for the most part they cater for what is popular. I said it before, but SH Figuarts was born with the advent of Kai and predominantly aimed at the domestic market. The thing that stands Tamashii apart from other manufacturers however, is that now, 10 years on, they are marketing towards a global fanbase, and not just Japan. You still find that figures that will sell well in Japan will be regular release, whilst those that perform better internationally will be webshop exclusives, but at least they make them. They then alternate which products they bring to market accordingly. To your point, in the simplest terms, figures need to sell a certain quantity to make profit. Whatever market research they've gathered, obviously indicates that making saiyan saga Gohan will not make them as much money as a Yamcha, Tien or even Majin Vegeta. Majin Vegeta is also a perfect example of a character who is more popular in the west than the east. Guaranteed he will sell more units internationally. The new goku on the other hand will likely do very well in Japan alone! I don't get the $ strategy, because with manufacturing figures that can't fit with any others, they're losing money. For example: i really may not buy Majin Vegeta if Goku SSJ2 is not realeased. Both gathered would make 100 to 120 euros! I'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who's buying figures in order to recreate epic fights from the manga or the anime. By the way, what makes you think that kid Gohan is less popular than Yamcha or Ten shin han? |
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Post by Adrenaline on Dec 20, 2017 8:40:22 GMT -6
I feel like they purposely create holes in their production to give them some insurance, and something to fall back on in case demand does drop. Holes such as Super Buu with Gohan, Gohan-Buu with Vegito, Kid Gohan with Piccolo, SS2Goku with Majin Vegeta, anime-colored Nappa with Tenshinhan, Android 19 with SSGoku, etc.
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Post by kanji on Dec 20, 2017 8:52:03 GMT -6
I don't get the $ strategy, because with manufacturing figures that can't fit with any others, they're losing money. For example: i really may not buy Majin Vegeta if Goku SSJ2 is not realeased. Both gathered would make 100 to 120 euros! I'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who's buying figures in order to recreate epic fights from the manga or the anime. By the way, what makes you think that kid Gohan is less popular than Yamcha or Ten shin han? Couldn't the same thing be argued about SSJ3 Goku though? How many people passed on him because there is no Buu figure to display him with? From what I can see he sold pretty well. Vegeta is no exception. As a collector who likes to display figures in Dioramas, I completely sympathise with you, but I don't think that's the agenda for many casual collectors. Also, by making Vegeta a webshop exclusive, they've obviously already considered this a potential issue for the domestic sales. With webshop exclusives, the quantity is made to order (with a small buffer). So if you don't place an order, your figure won't get made, it's no great loss to them. As far as kid Gohan, I just don't see much imagery/merchandise in the fandom. Typically his most iconic apperache is as SSJ2 in the Cell Games. |
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Post by ollymovics on Dec 20, 2017 9:12:04 GMT -6
I feel like they purposely create holes in their production to give them some insurance, and something to fall back on in case demand does drop. Holes such as Super Buu with Gohan, Gohan-Buu with Vegito, Kid Gohan with Piccolo, SS2Goku with Majin Vegeta, anime-colored Nappa with Tenshinhan, Android 19 with SSGoku, etc. If i understand right, you mean they keep in mind to fill the holes by releasing the pairs you mention if the sales in general are droping? |
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Post by ollymovics on Dec 20, 2017 9:17:57 GMT -6
I don't get the $ strategy, because with manufacturing figures that can't fit with any others, they're losing money. For example: i really may not buy Majin Vegeta if Goku SSJ2 is not realeased. Both gathered would make 100 to 120 euros! I'm pretty sure i'm not the only one who's buying figures in order to recreate epic fights from the manga or the anime. By the way, what makes you think that kid Gohan is less popular than Yamcha or Ten shin han? Couldn't the same thing be argued about SSJ3 Goku though? How many people passed on him because there is no Buu figure to display him with? From what I can see he sold pretty well. Vegeta is no exception. As a collector who likes to display figures in Dioramas, I completely sympathise with you, but I don't think that's the agenda for many casual collectors. Also, by making Vegeta a webshop exclusive, they've obviously already considered this a potential issue for the domestic sales. With webshop exclusives, the quantity is made to order (with a small buffer). So if you don't place an order, your figure won't get made, it's no great loss to them. As far as kid Gohan, I just don't see much imagery/merchandise in the fandom. Typically his most iconic apperache is as SSJ2 in the Cell Games. If Goku SSJ3 is selling well, i might be wrong, nevertheless, you still can display him with Beerus. Anyway, if many buyers do'nt mind to display their characters as seen in the anime/manga, or even don't do that at all, we should forget about some of our dreams. Vegeta is an exclusive? I'm surprised cause he's already for regular sale in my country. OK for kid Gohan, i tought he was much more popular and demanded! |
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Post by RedRanger on Dec 20, 2017 9:19:10 GMT -6
Majin Vegeta is now for sale; great? Yes, but not that much to me. I don't mean i don't like that figure, now, it's looking really good. But what i mean is that they should consider to fit figures in pairs. Majin Vegeta needs either Big Boo or Goku SSJ2 to exist! OK, big boo as been seen, but it doesn't mean for sure he will be released. thereby, i prefer to wait before buying MV, wich i would definitely prefer to fit with Goku SSJ2 than big boo. We have adult Gohan, but still waiting for super boo or buutenks to fit with!! We don't have any figure at the moment to display our adult gohan in action! Another statement i would like to make is that they should finish sagas before starting others. They've released lately some nice figures from the saiyan saga: Yamcha, Ten shin han,Scouter Vegeta and Nappa. But what about Kid Gohan? Same thing about DBS, we now have Resurection Frieza, but nothing about Jiren, Kefla or Migate no Gokui Goku from the tournament. I have to admit that at this point, i really don't care about DB figures, cause they still have many figures to realease before. I'm really wondering what's their logic in all that. Boo is due for July, I think. |
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Post by RedRanger on Dec 20, 2017 9:22:07 GMT -6
Oof I want a 2.0 Vegetto. Maybe with Blue hair?
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Post by Majin Tomato on Dec 20, 2017 9:24:32 GMT -6
I always point back to DCUC. For a lot of comic collectors, that's the go to line. But they didn't do Martian Manhunter, at the time still a mainstay of the Justice League, until wave FIFTEEN. To put that in perspective, Aquaman was wave TWO.
Ultimately there's a weird logic when plotting out figures for a wave or for a years releases... This many figures you want to do balanced against figures with X number of mold reuses you know people will buy, and with X number of characters fans want.
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Post by ollymovics on Dec 20, 2017 9:58:40 GMT -6
Majin Vegeta is now for sale; great? Yes, but not that much to me. I don't mean i don't like that figure, now, it's looking really good. But what i mean is that they should consider to fit figures in pairs. Majin Vegeta needs either Big Boo or Goku SSJ2 to exist! OK, big boo as been seen, but it doesn't mean for sure he will be released. thereby, i prefer to wait before buying MV, wich i would definitely prefer to fit with Goku SSJ2 than big boo. We have adult Gohan, but still waiting for super boo or buutenks to fit with!! We don't have any figure at the moment to display our adult gohan in action! Another statement i would like to make is that they should finish sagas before starting others. They've released lately some nice figures from the saiyan saga: Yamcha, Ten shin han,Scouter Vegeta and Nappa. But what about Kid Gohan? Same thing about DBS, we now have Resurection Frieza, but nothing about Jiren, Kefla or Migate no Gokui Goku from the tournament. I have to admit that at this point, i really don't care about DB figures, cause they still have many figures to realease before. I'm really wondering what's their logic in all that. Boo is due for July, I think. This would be cool, that would mean they keep selling one figure a month. Thereby, we might be expecting 5 figures left for the 2nd half of 2018. My predictions: August: Gotenks (because he has been seen a lot these last months) September: Muten Roshi October: Bulma November: Goku 2.0 December: Zamazu (the surprise) If my dreams come true: Aug: Kid Gohan + Gohan cyborgs era combined in one box Sep: Super boo October: Goku SSJ2/Goku namek (yes, sometimes, we have 2 combined the same month, so why not) november: Jiren December: Goku Migate no Gokui |
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